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Richo · Dec 27, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

make it campain restricted so that all campains can have each of their max skillhunter titles, would be more fair for pple not being able to afford all campains...

Teger · Dec 28, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

I would say that you have a skill hunter title for each campaign, and 1 for all campaigns, but make the one for all campaigns not count for kind of a big deal.

Myzerie Payne · Dec 28, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Bit late to the conversation... my apologies if somebody has suggestted this already...

I'm in favour of splitting the Skill hunter title into subtitles. I'd do four: 1 for Core and 1 for each continent. I'd be okay if it was an all-or-nothing (like missions).

Now, for the people whining about KoaBD becoming "meaningless" with each new game, how about this idea...

IF the next installment is going to be a new series and the three we have (Proph, Factions, NF) constitute the "Flameseeker Trilogy", why not make a (PvE, per-char) title to show you kicked butt. What I'm thinking is:

4 Skill Hunter (Core, P, F, N)
3 Carto (P, F, N)
3 Protector (P, F, N)

Progression is:
any four of the above MAXed: "Flameseeker Initiate"
any seven of the above MAXed: "Flameseeker Adept"
all ten of the above titles MAXed: "Flameseeker Master" (possibly displayed in gold if at all possible)

Since this title wouldn't be affected by any miscellaneous PvE titles (that you can buy -- Wisdom, *cough* *cough*) and isn't affected by PvP titles, this is one that would truly "mean" something. It wouldn't ever get watered down like KoaBD with new games. If you could max them, I'd even be okay with throwing Lightbringer and Sunspear in there (although it throws the weighting in favour of NF). And if anyone has better games, go for it.

One other, little request to the Devs: can we get title groups with +/- like the quest log? Carto group, Festival group (Gamer, Un/Lucky), PvP, etc. The length of my title window is getting a little ridiculous!

Azza · Dec 28, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50

i have about 170 Elites so far, i know its not a lot compared to some but i am tryn to get at least 5 a day from now on from the 3 campaigns.
Still will this prposal affect me in the short term if it goes ahead? Yes. Do i care? No. why not, because what they are propossing seems to be a better and fairer way for all game players. come on people without giving some kind of achievement to those who want them or feel that they need the prestiage it gives them these people will simply give up and stop playing and then we all may have to start paying to play online like WoW as well, time to think outside the square.
Speaking of being fair to ALL GAME PLAYERS, something should be done with Leechers from ABing and Factions Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry, i know I`ve given up on doing both because leechers get rewarded as much as active game players, i say give 10 seconds to get out of a starting point or resurection point or nothing is awarded to you.

Stemnin · Dec 28, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

I put up my choice as keeping the current system, but that was before I read the OP, first all, I don't really care about the titles, I have had many characters and only 1 has a max title, just for my rit a protector title, and my monk, which ive played over 1200 hours, got pretty much all titles in progress and couldn't really care less about it.

But I can understand some people wanting the titles and having fun getting the titles (it was fun for a time getting that title), so I would like to retract my vote and put +1 to making 3 separate skill hunter and 1 international skill hunter.

lucifair · Dec 28, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

i got my r 4 title and i really couldnt care less on whether its campaign specific or not...if u dont split it then i'll get the maxed title somewhere in the next 2 campaigns...and if it is split then i'll just finish capping the 5 factions elites, and the 10 proph elites i need for those maxed titles, so im either or

henrywitwicki · Dec 29, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Splittin the skills... I certainly hope so! I capped ALL in Prophesies, only to find I had to wait for Factions. I capped all of Factions, only to find I had to wait for NightFall. I capped all (but one) in NightFall only to be very confused. Now I need more than there are avial including Nightfall. Odd, how you don't need to Map 100% of Prophesies, 100& of Factions, and 100% Nightfall, only to find you need 100% of something that is not out as yet for the Cartographer's title. ~ Adronius Silverbow

Gli · Dec 29, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by henrywitwicki

I capped ALL in Prophesies, only to find I had to wait for Factions.

Unless my brain has really broken down with the heavy drinking, weren't the titles introduced with Factions?

eudas · Dec 29, 2006, 08:09 PM // 20:09

Hi there... Telamon Soulcutter, 193 elites capped.

IMO, Splitting the Skill Hunter title is not precisely the answer you need. In reading the first 5 or so pages of this thread, someone hit upon a much more elegant solution -- that is,
1) making skill hunter title account-wide; and
2) tie it to UAS for the account.
oh, and
3) QUIT COUNTING SKILLS FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER THAT ARE IN FOR BETA TESTERS FOR THE DAMNED TITLE.

to elaborate on part (2) above, title ranks gained for Skill Hunter should be tied to the overall number of skills unlocked on the account.

thanks,
eudas

p.s.
this was a pretty nice idea, too:

Quote:

PS: ... and if you are thinking about changes anyway, how about adding a little benefit for skill hunters, e.g. x % discount on all skill and signet of capture purchases, with x being the skill hunter level.

cheers,
eudas

eudas · Dec 29, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by korcan

it seems like you want "vanity items/armors" handed to you on a silver platter. if anet made nicer skins readily available to any player, would u still want them? nice skins are considered nice because of their rarity. all online rpgs will require some type of "grind" to acquire "vanity items/armors". if u dont have the time or dont want to "grind", be content with whats available to you.

actually, if you could "buy" a skin at the weaponsmith for a given weapon, that might actually make weaponsmiths useful for a change.

for example, if you wanted to take your +5 ene katana that you bought in Divine Path and buy the "shadow blade" skin for it for 5-10k, voila, there ya go. have fun.

eudas

Mr_Cynical · Dec 29, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by eudas

actually, if you could "buy" a skin at the weaponsmith for a given weapon, that might actually make weaponsmiths useful for a change.

for example, if you wanted to take your +5 ene katana that you bought in Divine Path and buy the "shadow blade" skin for it for 5-10k, voila, there ya go. have fun.

eudas

Yes but that would require anet to deliver on their vaporware-since-GW-beta promise of an improved trading system (and don't anyone talk to be about the new chat system, you can't trade through it)

navatar1 · Dec 30, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Now I'm just wondering if they even are gonna implement this, or if maybe they're waiting till all the wintersday celebration is over. When I found this thread I really renewed my interest in elite skill capping, finished off those half dozen from each of factions and proph. I do have my KoaBD title, I just want a little more added on to it for the next one...

A Kantara · Jan 02, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

As a player that only got Factions and Nightfall in the last few months, I believe it is a good idea to split the titles and i agree in the way a-net has the right method to do it.
As to some of the comments of a few ppl on this web sight I believe they would make good Agony Aunt columnists and i would like them to try make a game that they would enjoy playing. Change is good. Think of tier 3 KOABD and the rest. I may not agree with All A-net does but at least they keep doing it.

Soldat · Jan 02, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

I would definitely love to have the Skill Hunter title split into lesser titles by continent, but one "International" title is meh... as long as it doesn't count towards KoaBD and PKM I'd be fine with it I guess.

Stupid Shizno · Jan 02, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Im tired of the rants "this cheapens the KoaBD title", as more campeigns come out the title becomes less "valued" as all you need to do is max out 5 titles, 3 protectors, 1 drunk, 1 survior. or 4 protectors, 1 survior. see what i mean? as more chapters come out, the KoaBD title becomes widley open to all. stop trying to put value into a title, they are all farmable.

Chinson Windancer · Jan 03, 2007, 04:07 AM // 04:07

/vote, 3 campaign-specific titles
just curious, can we get some benefit as chest hunter or wisdom title some day by skill hunter title?

Athenia · Jan 03, 2007, 05:41 AM // 05:41

/vote against

For someone like me who has the first tier of the skill title and I captured it in Factions and Nightfall, it would make me really irrate to loose my hard earned title because I didn't capture all of them in on place.

If you were to split the Elite Skill Title in relation to the individual chapters, would that mean that each unique elite skills would stay in each chapter and would not be able to be capped other chapters? How would you count the skill that are in all three chapters such as Barrage and Spell Breaker?

Rok · Jan 03, 2007, 06:39 AM // 06:39

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Originally Posted by Athenia

/vote against

For someone like me who has the first tier of the skill title and I captured it in Factions and Nightfall, it would make me really irrate to loose my hard earned title because I didn't capture all of them in on place.

If you were to split the Elite Skill Title in relation to the individual chapters, would that mean that each unique elite skills would stay in each chapter and would not be able to be capped other chapters? How would you count the skill that are in all three chapters such as Barrage and Spell Breaker?

Core skills would add to and count towards all the titles, if you have 5 core elites and add a new chapter to your account you would be already 5 skills towards that chapter's elite title. You just have to capture all the new elites.

This may sound bad, but ... If you can't even be bothered to get the first tier just from a single campaign ... Do you really deserve it?

And it should not be account wide, that cheapens it ... A lot of people already spent time, money, and skill points to get all on a single character. Granted it is not something I will do with any of my other characters, it is a pain in the butt.

As for your first question, the answer should be obvious ... You won't be able to get non-chapter elite in that chapter ... Which is the point of splitting the title up.

bossie · Jan 03, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47

I do not hope the Skill hunter title would be seperated into 3 max level titles. I have the kind of i big deal title with all the explorer and protector titles (6). I'm proud to have this title and it took me very very long to get it. Sepererate the skill hunter title into 3 new max titles means i get 3 new max titles too. (I have the Elite Skillhunter title) But please... with those 3 new max titles its no kind of a big deal anymore but a little effort. You should change the lvl 1 of the track like this.

Otherwise I like the idea of the international titles as long as they dont count as max titles.

PyrAnkh · Jan 03, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

I voted against, itll cheapen KoaBD. For the people that dont feel like capping elites they wont use (goldsinks ftl), KoaBD is still rather hard to get. If you already have tier5 skillcapping, you will be KoaBD in no time.